Whats worst?

Pro scratchers......or scratcher pros? Before you start. Lets take Pro as all medical and safety aspects being up to par.

If you are following all the safety guidelines, and are not the most talented artist in the world, the worst that can happen is you get a tattoo that isn't the most artistic thing in the world. If you are the best artist in the world and are tattooing people unsafely, the worst that can happen is that someone dies of a virus, but has a really good tattoo. I would think the answer to which is better would be pretty obvious to most anyone.

seems you didnt bother to read the post or just chose to bent it to suit your flame. Wish you would have created your own post for that...why change this?

Maybe you could pose the question a bit clearer. I was under the impression that was what you were asking.

I'm not clear of the question either John, could you stupid proof it for dumb fucks like me?

Heres the stupid proof version.LOL.... Both sides are DOCTORS Tattooing out of NASA clean rooms. All medical and safety issues aside. The scratcher PRO has a liscence and the PRO scratcher dosn't. the first being a no talented pump em out for the buck Licensed tattooist working in a street shop or what have you. and the second A Very good Talented artist and tattooist working with out a license (for what ever reasons)(again...forget about the safty issues, (This guy is LOUIS PASTEUR.lol) which is worst?

Yeah Johnny Boy ...What da fuk ya tawkin bout???????

yes, why not say "home scratchers" and "shop scratchers" .

If the safety issues are identical, I would still say the home scratcher is the worst...because they are the ones committing a crime by not being licensed and will be the ones who bring about all the legal bullshit. If they are fantastic artists, why aren't they in studios? I GENERALLY have no moral delemma with breaking the law...but it will make the industry suffer more than a guy pumping out so-so work in a licensed establishment.

The guy in the "pro" shop putting out substandard work is worse to me. The guy who spouts all day about how evil scratchers are, how he's a better person because of his dwelling. Guys like that give tattoing an even worse name in my opinion for the fact that the scratcher's clientel have low expectations of art quality as well as sanitation and generally gets what they expect. And on occasion walk away amazed at what they got for 100 dollars. On the other hand the guy toughting about his skill and mystifying his customers with the idea that thier about to get a righteous piece of art and then they come out with a piss poor tat that isn't worth letting the guy pay them for fuckin it up, is alot more disappointed in the industry and is less likely to get inked again as well as tell all thier friend the tattoo they want is stupid because they spent 2-500 dollars and got whatever crap the shop scratcher left them with. Only good artists should be tatin' people up. As far as where they do it, every environment should be judged based on itself not ones like it. A kitchen can be an ideal studio when cleaned and maintained by a well versed individual. Like wise the most perfect studio setting can be an even more deadly setting when left to a moron to keep up.

Well, you also stacked the deck and made this as unrealistic as humanly possible. You said that both were equally safe....which is RARELY EVER the case. It is nearly impossible to maintain health standards in your kitchen, whereas a studio should be set up to do so. And you avoided the one question I asked: If this kitchen magician is so goddamn talented and knowledgable, why isn't he licensed and in a studio?? Laziness? Low self esteem? What?

And every single kitchen scratcher I have ever encountered claimed to be a better artist than anyone in a studio, and talked about how there are so many great artists working out of their kitchens....but ya know what? I have yet to ever meet ONE that was nearly as talented as they thought. For some reason, the words, "Dang, Skeeter, y'all sure am a guuuuuuud drawler." has boosted many an ego, in many a kitchen.

Man Keepin it reel..ya hit that one on the head!!!!!///T

to: Keeping it real. First off, what do all Home tattooist have to be in the kitchen? Second of all. you wanna tell me that safety at a Convention or show environment cant be topped at home? And third......there are STILL many States and MANY reasons why ALL artists arnt in shops. I dare say that Most artists in Massachussets were no more than underground stratchers till just a few years ago, Again,,,,I am NOT promoting any of this. But I WILL say.....when safety is NOT a factor....Id rather sit in a KITCHEN and get a quality piece from an unkisenced artist......than a scratched cartoon from a licensed no talent?

John I gotta agree to a point...especially about the convention thing I've seen some very lackadaisical sanitary proceedures during conventions that we would never tolerate in a studio setting. Its all about common sense..If an artist has common sense any room can in theory be safely utilized as a tattoo studio....its just so much simpler to be in a shop...so much easier to maintain a dedicated "sterile field" As I've said before I have worked out of my home...when I moved here from LA my shop wasn't ready due to a lazy and inefficient construction company ( imagine that!) I HAD to work out of my home...Didn't like it but had no choice...Kids to feed Harleys that needed oil....and a bloodsucking leech of a wife!...So I did what I had to do....I tattooed IN MY HOME!!! And I defy ANYONE to say my tattoo space wasn't as safe or safer than ANY convention setting ( and most studios!) I've seen. Now don't misunderstand me...I do not condone home studios!!! And I don't condone scratching....but then again I've seen some straight up scratcher work come out of some "brand name" shops A scratcher is a scratcher no matter where they work.....For Gods sake look at INKMASTERS!!!!.......TAz

I am not by ANY means promoting tattooing at home! Although I had been forced to spend some time doing it. Friends, family etc. My point ONLY was that the Idea that it HAS to be unsafe is ludichris, One of the BEST tattooist in CT works in a legal shop in the front of his house. My point was, There are many reasons someone Cant get into a shop...yet be an outstanding artist. YET I am seeing MANY scratchers with licenses IN shops. Instead of generalizing and pointing fingers.....Why not just use common sence when selecting an artist. With all the posts made on this and other sites, with a minimal amount of reading you should ALL know what to look for and ask for safety wise...and should ALL know what to look for in an artist for that special tattoo. If you ARE all about just walking into a shop and letting WHOEVER do WHATEVER to you.....I dont think youd be here.

John you realize that you and I are starting a major war here don't you? By pointing out the hippocracies of the tattoo industry in that being a scratcher does not necessarily mean one is working out of their home. Yes scratchers exist in shops world wide.And some attend big name conventions who aceept anyone as long as they have the money for the booth fee..I have seen so called artists at conventions that worked with no autoclave and at the same time I have seen awesome conscientious artists working in their homes And so it begins.......................TAz

I do not believe in tattoo conventions. Whoever thought it was a good idea to wander around a crowded room with an open wound, rubbing against 30,000 other people with open wounds was an idiot. Whoever decided to turn the even into a keg party made it even more idiotic. Whoever decided that promoters should sell booth space to scratcher suppliers made it even more idiotic. There are rooms that must be maintained in certain conditions of cleanliness. It is far easier to do so in a studio, than in a place you and your kids live. If someone doesn't have the ambition to open a legit studio, why should I trust that they have the ambition to keep their house clean?